Fluoride in the Vegan shake

Why is there fluoride in the vegan shake?

And does fluoride harm the brain?

I’ve compared ingrediënts of the jimmyjoy-plennyshake Shake and the jimmyjoy-plennyshake Vegan Shake. The jimmyjoy-plennyshake Shake has choline and sulfur which the Vegan Shake doesn’t contain. And the Vegan shake contains fluoride/fluorine and pantothenic acid which the jimmyjoy-plennyshake shake does not.

All I’m worried about is the fluoride/fluorine, and so I would like to be reassured.

Staining of the teeth occurs at about 9mg fluor per day and you need a constant dose of 20mg per day to get really sick. Which is like ehm… 3 kg of jimmyjoy-plennyshake vegan if I remember it right.
So you should rather be afraid of drinking 4 liters of black or green tea per day. Tea is quite high in fluor but nobody seems paranoid about tea. :slightly_smiling:

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Healthcare Triage has a nice extensive video on fluoride. (Mostly on water fluoridation in the US, but the same should apply to other fluoride.)
The claim about brain damage probably comes from a review study that looked at 27 studies from China and Iran. There they found that extremely high flouride levels are correlated with a decrease of IQ by 0.5 points (i.e. not a lot). However, often high flouride levels there are caused by pollution or coal heating, which might cause intelligence decrease on their own.

It would be interesting to know about the rationale behind all the differences in the vegan vs. vegetarian version, though.

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So that means I should stop eating my toothpaste then? :dizzy_face:

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Nooo. No. No. No. I hate to bring it to ya, but you got it all wrong. Just continue eating your toothpaste as usual. However, you should always turn at least 360 degrees clockwise after you’ve done so. This makes sure the fluo-riders know their way (from stomach to other parts) and won’t stay where they are for too long. They don’t like that; which might make 'em mad, y’know. :slightly_smiling:

There’s one exception: you should turn counter-clockwise when you’re using Parodontax. There’s flux-thingy-thingies in there, which don’t like clockwise-ism.

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Noted. I feel better already. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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In my thought there has not been an answer to this question. Only reference to real answer was a youtoube link to a guy who promotes that goverment spends billions to have nerotoxin in water because they care about your dental health.(*tooth decay reduction) In my beliefs it calcifies your pinal gland and other organs of the body and it is not worth and exchange of less tooth decay. If you have good tooth hygiene and you wash your teeth regularly you are good without this nerotoxin.

So the question - Why this substance is in the vegan jimmyjoy-plennyshake?
-This seriously is the reason why I am thinking to stop using jimmyjoy-plennyshake and advise everyone else to do so as well.

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It seems nobody is satisfied with the answers given here so I’ll weigh in myself:
Pantothenic Acid is the scientific name of B5. There is vitamin B5 in jimmyjoy-plennyshake because it is an essential nutrient.
The same goes for fluoride.
Our product contains all the necessary nutrients, and both of these nutrients are considered essential in the European vitamins and minerals guidelines, therefore they are present in our formula (vegan and regular).
If there are any more pressing questions please feel free to mail me! pablo@jimmyjoy.com

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The same goes for fluoride.

Really??? vitamin B5 is an essential nutrient… fluoride is a poison…

It seems that European vitamins and minerals guidelines are outdated…

Healthy drink, as jimmyjoy-plennyshake is supposed to be, should not contain fluoride… This point make me hesitate to buy jimmyjoy-plennyshake.

Yes, too much fluoride intake is poisonous/dangerous. As is too much oxygen, too much water, etc. As mentioned above jimmyjoy-plennyshake includes it to meet EU guidelines. If you don’t want fluoride in your diet don’t buy jimmyjoy-plennyshake and/or leave the EU.

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Unfortunately, leaving EU will not change EU guidelines nor bring me jimmyjoy-plennyshake without fluoride…

Fluoride was only supposed to prevent tooth decay for people who didn’t brush their teeth … our bodies do not need fluoride as it does not need lead…
They are toxic in very small quantities.
A fluorine deficiency can’t happen.
by the way, is there fluoride in NASA food?

I knew nothing about fluoride danger and I thank kennyvanlent for raising that point. Questioning allows improvement, right?
The method “you don’t agree, then leave” is such a simple way to solve all the problems … (and cause wars …)

but you’re right, if I do not want fluoride, I do not buy jimmyjoy-plennyshake … and that’s what I’m doing now.

And this is a problem for me. I’m still present so far because jimmyjoy-plennyshake seems to me such a good idea … I’d like it to be perfect …

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What I understand from sites that tell a bit about fluoride, is that the whopping ‘about 3 mg’ that you’ll eat when you were to eat only jimmyjoy-plennyshake, is not considered the ‘very large amount’ that has the potential to cause harm. (I’ve used this as a source.)

In this document, it is stated that there is fluoride in all sorts of food: from fish to vegetables. This means, that if you were to not eat jimmyjoy-plennyshake, you’d also get some fluoride in your body (assuming you’d eat something). All in all, the discussion about fluoride intake is still going on, and my guess is that jimmyjoy-plennyshake tries to ‘play it safe’ by trying to get the daily nutritional value about the same as you’d normally eat. This means; including some fluoride.

Anyway, there are also voices to be read on the internet, stating that every mg of fluoride is bad, and can kill you in an instant. So far, I’ve not heard of people dropping dead due to fluoride in jimmyjoy-plennyshake.

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Dudes…look at all the fluoride in these foods:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000146000000000000000-w.html?categories=1,9,11,0,13,14,19,4,12,10,8,17,15,3
And that’s just tip of the iceberg. It’s everywhere!
Well…I guess that only leaves inedia as a healthy option for nutrition. I hear it does wonders for getting rid of excess weight. :smiley_cat:

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puts on hipster voice
I sooooo agree with the ‘less is more’ philosophy. I just looove the vibes radiating from that don’t-eat groove you showed us. That’ll be sooo 2017.

puts on revolutionary leader voice
Let’s ditch food (jimmyjoy-plennyshake, I’m looking at you), together! Our age of food, is now! No more fluoride, and no more nutrients. Let’s show them powdery people, with their ‘all the time’ what having all the time really means. Who’s in?!

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And don’t forget the dangers of drinking. Dihydromonooxide is extremely addicting and if it can rust trough metal pipes, imagine what it will do to your body.
Freedom!

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guys, you’re so funny… and health is such a funny subject…

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Let’s not get into that discussion in this thread. However, you’re always free to start a ‘On the funny-ness of health’ thread in the Random category. :slight_smile:

I think this question has been answered; both by Pablo (head taste-tinkering and master of nutrients at jimmyjoy-plennyshake) and me (Da CraZy OnE).

Anyway; I’ll be closing this topic. You’re free to create a new thread, whenever you feel the need to.

Edit:
Please see this topic for the continuation of the discussion.