As I read today Plenny Shake Big Bag is going to replace Plenny Shake Active very shortly. This thread will most probably not change anything, but I wanted to ask you to continue selling Plenny Shake Active (in addition to Plenny Shake Big Bag). I have been a customer for a long time (even long before you changed the name from ■■■■■■■ to Jimmy Joy) and have an active subscription for Plenny Shake Active. I do bodybuilding and I am nearly 100% on Jimmy Joy Active and eat every day one complete bag. Based on my needs the macrosplit is (nearly) perfect (carbs 50%/ fat 20%/ protein 30%). Sadly, Plenny Shake Big Bag which is supposed to replace Plenny Shake Active is not even close to an alternative for me due to the way to high amount of fat (carbs 35%/ fat 35%/ protein 30%). I understand that different people have different needs, but I cannot understand how a product should replace another product which targets a completely different audience (based on the heavy change in the macrosplit). For me as a “gym rat” even the regular Plenny Shake (carbs 55%/ fat 30%/ protein 15%) is doing a way better job (if I add some proteins). I really hope you consider on continuing selling Plenny Shake Active. Thanks!
Totally agree. Also like Active because of the low fat content.
Thanks for the input guys, appreciate it! It’s interesting to see so many different people have so many different needs, of course these macro’s really are a very individual thing depending on your lifestyle. I really wish we could cater to all of these different needs and preferences, but unfortunately we have to choose averages. We try to do this as much as we can by listening to our community and by doing the proper market research.
We know it’s not ideal, but you can also try using the Plenny Shake formula that bests suits your needs as a sort of ‘base line’ to further experiment with different additions such as proteins, fats, and fibers.
Thanks again for the input, keep the feedback coming!
That’s a good idea, but what should I add if i want more protein? Should I crush nuts and add those? Or is there another way to add protein?
You can use protein powder. Since this is the number one supplement for buddy building you can buy it nearly “everywhere” (e. g. amazon). Depending on what you want to pay Whey concentrate would be the cheapest. But you can also use Why isolate which is a little bit more expensive. I personally use a high-quality protein blend which fits my needs the best.
But it is still a huge step backwards. Now I need to add proteins, maltodextrin and creatin to every meal (expect creatin only for one meal). And that’s against the propose of a time saving meal :(. After so many years in which I eat Jimmy Joy for nearly every meal I might switch to another meal replacement which fits my needs better. Everything that’s great will eventually end :(.
@Tim: But still thanks for the response! At least it’s good to know.
Why would you add maltodextrin to your meal?
As I wrote initially I regularly do body building. Maltodextrin is a well-known and often recommended supplement. Typically you use it just after your workout because it is a short-chain carbohydrate and therefor it goes fast into your blood. On top Maltodextrin is also a very good weight gainer. Since I am a hardgainer I use Maltodextrin to gain some extra weight. If you are a softgainer (or want to lose weight) you can skip Maltodextrin for your regular meal but I would still suggest using it directly after your workout. Since Plenny Shake Active is/was a meal replacement for “gym rats” (their words not mine) I cannot understand why the toke out the Maltodextrin. The same goes for creatine.
Last but not least I want to say that I am not a native speaker. I tried to answer your question as good as possible but if I could write this in my native language I could give much more detailed information. Now its just a very short answer with the most important and basic informations. Hope it still helps!
Why is this new formula having only 400 kcal per meal instead of 500 as before? How can that low amount of calories be for “gym rats”? I am really disappointed and I hope for better changes
I think the only reason 400kcal is considered one meal is that the competition is doing the same.
And when you just compare the „price per meal“ the competition would look more affordable.
Especially to someone who has no clue about nutritional values.
Earlier one Joy-lent / Jimmy Joy meal was around 700-800kcal.
Then it was changed to 400.
@Polaroid55 is exactly right! Also, these meal sizes are just guidelines. If you would like to consume 500 or even 800 kcal meals that’s totally fine of course It all depends on your personal needs and preferences.
There are multiple reasons why we’ve chosen 400kcal as suggested meal size. The main ones being:
The majority of our customers consume our products at breakfast or lunch. 400kcal would make more sense, since it’s recommended to get about 20% of your RDI from breakfast (which happens to be 400kcal).
More flexibility. We have chosen to level all meals at 400kcal (drink/bar/shake suggestion). Many diets are built up somewhere between 1600 and 2400 kcal.
Better energy levels throughout the day. We see a trend in the western world where people start consuming more but smaller meals instead of the “oldschool” breakfast/lunch/dinner.
Mobility & limitations of Drink / Bar size. If we’d go bigger in meal size we would have to go either 500ML for the drink (bulkier packaging), and there are no manufacturers that we are aware of that can do 400kcal+ bars (we are already testing the limit of most production lines at 400kcal).
Hope this gives you a little more insight in why we choose 400kcal! If you have any other questions please let us know